Juniper M10 value propositon

The Juniper M series of routers have been obsoleted but are a really good value proposition if all you need is a few gig of reliable routing capability. The M10/M10i is a redundant H/A solution that is readily available in the refurbished market from sub 2000 USD and the most cost effective way to bootstrap a small enterprise with a robust core.

What You Get

  • 5U Chassis
  • 2 x C-FEB Forwarding Boards (active + standby)
  • 8 x PIC Physical Interface Card slots
  • 2 x Routing Engines 400Mhz CPU 256M RAM (higher spec available for more $)
  • 4 x 300W PSU (2 Required for operation 3/4 for redundancy)
  • In Service replaceable fan tray


  • Fully redundant PSU, routing engine and switch fabric.
  • High availability features
  • Cheap and available
  • Enterprise grade
  • MPLS and IPV6 support
  • Dedicated out of band ethernet and RS232 management ports
  • Plenty of SONET/SDH/ATM PIC options at reasonable pricing


  • Limited capacity (1G per PIC/slot)
  • Relatively inefficient (power and size vs throughput)
  • End Of Life
  • No layer-2 capability (kind of.. see below)
  • Only vlan-tagging support, no stacked-vlan-tagging or flexible-vlan-tagging (ie. no L3 support for  Q-in-Q).

The 1G limitation per port is the hard limit on this device and I would not want to try and use it anywhere beyond a total of 4G of capacity as balancing evenly across ports starts to become a factor. The M series routers are IP/MPLS routers supporting all the standard BGP/IS-IS/OSPF and MPLS protocols as well as allowing for multiple routing instances.

Stateful firewalling and VPN is possible but would require a services PIC, two for redundancy. If this is what you are needing then you are generally better off looking at something else as they can be expensive and limited to 1G per module.

Now the M series were made in an era when layer-2 and layer-3 functionality was typically serviced by separate devices, so the M series routers are just that, routers, they have no switching capability at all. Well kind of, it support 802.3ad LACP link bonding between PIC’s and with the progression of technology and standards, Junos and the M platform received upgrades and features which included MPLS and VPLS functionality which is technically a layer-2 technology.

Because of the lack of switching support VPLS is limited in what it can do and you can run into issues if you are not aware of of these limitation. How we typically implement is as follows

  • 4 x 1G ethernet PIC’s
  • 2 x 2 Ports bonded with LACP into 2 aggregated ethernet ports on switches

(these numbers can be doubled for more capacity)

We use the 2 aggregated ports to provide a network facing port and a services facing port. They also provide link redundancy into the network, they typically all uplink into the same switch stack and are used to provide a pair of interfaces/VLAN’s for the M10 which can also be used to loop traffic where required. You could do this all with one AE port with all the physicals in it and just use VLANs but I like to split my roles across interfaces for easier visibility and troubleshooting.

So on one VLAN on the network AE we set up MPLS capability with all the layer-3 stuff that’s required to make MPLS work. On the services port we setup a customer or service facing VLAN that we want to tunnel using VPLS. This is done by setting the VLAN port encapsulation to vlan-vpls and then creating a routing instance of  instance-type vpls and adding the interface to that instance type. Now this is technically a switching function that is being performed on a routing only device.

The caveat is that you need to create a separate routing instance for every layer-2 service that you want to use. You CANNOT use VLAN’s on the VPLS service because you will run into MAC learning issues due to the fact that the M10 is not layer-2 aware and cannot differentiate between the different broadcast domains of multiple VLAN’s. It will work for a bit but you will run into random dropped packets as the MAC learning table on your endpoint devices gets polluted.

The flexible-vlan-tagging or stacked-vlan-tagging option on interfaces is allowed but ultimately not supported. On commit the device spits warnings in the messages log and when you try and configure the inner and outer tag the router will not accept the configuration. You should configure the vlan-tagging option instead.

A simpler supported L2 feature is the l2circuit using MPLS.  It is a point to point only tunnel that does not perform any MAC learning whatsoever, it just take the frame on one side and spits it out on the other. This can be configured on VLANs on ethernet ports if the encapsulation type on the VLAN is set to vlan-ccc. The port will accept further tags if they are present as well as “L2 local” frames such as LACP,LLDP,STP BPDU’s etc… The service is only really limited by overall MTU. This is because the M10 is not involved in any L2 learning so it will transparently pass the frame from one endpoint to the other endpoint. This is also why you can only have one endpoint because the M10 cannot make a path determination with no address information.

The down side is that troubleshooting can be a bit harder in that you cannot see any learned MAC’s but the up side is that you do not need to worry about memory + MAC learning limits.

As mentioned above, the lack of L2 support means that we usually pair an M10 with 2 EX4200’s in VC mode. QFX would be better but we are looking at a budget solution here so they don’t make sense. This gives you a certain amount of L2 flexibility that will cover most use cases. Be aware that EX series switches only support VLAN swap and push functions NOT VLAN pop. This can be somewhat limiting in this environment. One final note regarding the EX configuration for l2circuits, you can configure “dot1-tunneling layer2-protocol-tunneling all” on the EX4200’s which will ensure you can transparently take all frames from a customer facing VLAN to a l2circuit on the M10. This is also where we can look at MAC learning for troubleshooting as the switch will learn customer MAC’s, and also where we set MAC learning limits to prevent possible issues introduced on the EX by customer networks.